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QB Fire 共同持有人: 回應戰隊偷錢論「欠缺事實根據」

QB Fire 共同持有人: 回應戰隊偷錢論「欠缺事實根據」

在CIS Minor結束後,HLTV找來了CIS戰隊Quantum Bellator Fire共同持有人 Vyacheslav Solovyev 去討論有選手指QB Fire沒有償還選手的金錢。

來自Boombl4於Twitter上的最新推文最近吸引了CSGO社群的目光,因為這名目前效力NaVi的20歲選手透露,在2017年9月至2018年6月期間他前東家QB Fire共欠款95,000美元 – 但臨時未知這個數字是個人還是整個陣容的欠款。

這條推文是對前NiP選手Fifflaren回應,他在接受Richard Lewis採訪時公開了一系列涉及他前東家NiP的問題。在為期兩小時的談話中,這名ex-NiP選手詳細列出了NiP做錯了什麼,包括對前選手及目前正效力的選手都清理所有款項。

有關於NiP的勞資糾紛可以在點擊這裡

Boombl4表示,QB.Fire仍欠95,000美元
Photo courtesy of HLTV

在後來的推文中,Boombl4提到據稱涉嫌竊取這筆錢的一個人目前在CIS Minor賽事之中,後來發現這個人是Quantum Bellator Fire的共同持有人Vyacheslav Solovyev ,他在 CIS Minor作為另一支俄羅斯戰隊forZe隨行人員之一。

後來,Boombl4這些指控得到了前Quantum Bellator Fire成員jmqa證實,他亦向Cyber​​sport.ru發表了一份聲明, 解釋說QB Fire在ELEAGUE Major Boston 2018打入八強賽事,他們工資提高了並拒絕其他戰隊的轉會申請,但 QB.Fire要在有必要的時間為隊伍舉辦Bootcamps及其他津貼令QB Fire有著更好的條件去發展戰隊。 最終選手決定在夏季轉會到Winstrike,並於6月底首次亮相Moche XL Esports,儘管Winstrike在在8月1日才正式公佈陣容名單

週一早上,HLTV於CIS Minor與Quantum Bellator Fire共同持有人Vyacheslav Solovyev進行了交談,他保證沒有未欠款,並且所有選手都獲得了全額補貼,獎金和其他費用。他接著解釋了情況,描述了Major, Post以及這件事年的經過:

“Not too long before the Major, the wages of both the players and coach were increased to $750 per month,” he said. “Due to technical difficulties, we weren’t able to sign contracts with the players, and after their successful showing at the Major, the players returned to Moscow.

(離Major不遠的時間,選手及教練的人工都增加到每月750美元,”他說: “由於技術上的困難,我們無法與選手簽訂合約,並且在Major賽場上發揮出色的表現後,選手都回到了莫斯科。)

“Upon return, they stated that they wouldn’t sign the contracts, instead asking for a pay increase to $5,000, saying: ‘Teams at the Major receive this much, and even more’, word for word.

(回來後,他們表示他們不會簽署合約,而是要求加薪5000美元,並說:’參加Major的隊伍收到這個水平的工資,甚至更多’,一字不差地說。)

“They started setting single-week deadlines, then two-week deadlines for the wage increase, saying that they would otherwise leave for another organisation. We were told that they received a list of offers: for example, we learned that k1ck esports had allegedly offered them a monthly compensation of 3,500 Euros, according to them.”

(他們開始設下一個星期deadline ,然後是兩個星期的加人工的deadline,否則他們將會離開隊伍。我們被告知他們收到了一份報價:例如,我們得知k1ck eSports據稱他們說,他們每月向他們提供3,500歐元的補償金。)

“If I’m honest this was a terrible period of time because it felt like they weren’t themselves after returning from the Major.”

(如果我說實話,這是一個非常糟糕的時期,因為感覺他們從Major回來後已經不是原來的自己。”)

Vyacheslav Solovyev表示,隨著談判的繼續,雙方同意QB.Fire將有三個月的時間來過渡“從業餘轉變到商業形式運仿”,以滿足選手的要求。 在此期間,他們工資“增加到2000美元”。

儘管QB.Fire的努力,但該組織無法找到提供團隊所需條件的財政資源,導致與有意購買陣容名單的各方進行談判。

“The deadline was unfortunately very tight, and, importantly, the players lacked media presence,” he explained. “Additionally, this was the only result the team showed, prior to that there had been nothing, and, unfortunately afterward there was nothing either. It was the only sort of ‘splash’ that they showed. As such, I was unable to negotiate terms with partners that would cover all of their wages and expenses.

(不幸的是,deadline期限十分之緊迫,而且重要的是,選手缺乏媒體宣傳,”他解釋道,“另外,這是隊伍所展示的唯一結果,之前沒有任何結果,不幸的是之後也沒有任何結果。 這是他們展示的唯一一種“潑濺”。 因此,我無法與合作夥伴協商條款,以支付他們的所有工資和開支。)


“We started negotiations with organisations regarding the sale of the roster. At this point the relationship with the team got to a critical point, we constantly heard, ‘we don’t have contracts, we don’t owe you anything and we want to leave’.

(“我們開始與各方組織就出售戰隊陣容進行談判,此時與團隊的關係達到了臨界點,我們不斷聽到,’我們沒有合同,我們不欠你任何東西,我們想要 離開。)


“At this point, my business partner decided to freeze any payments to the players’ accounts until the deal was finalised. Initially, I was against this because I had hoped that the players’ would come around and the stardom would subside, opting to remain and continue progressing with the organisation, or wait until we were able to close a transfer deal. I made them a promise and I came through with it.

(在這時間,我的商業夥伴決定凍結對選手帳戶的任何付款,直到交易完成。最初,我反對這一點,因為我曾希望玩家會到來,他們這種想法會消退,亦會選擇留下並繼續在組織中取得進展,或者等到我們能夠完成轉讓協議。我做了一個承諾,我就完成了它。)


“As things progressively heated up, I also approved the decision to freeze payments. I’d like to point out that they were fully aware of this, and no one ever told them that this money wouldn’t be paid out, provided they delivered on their spoken promise of remaining within the organisation for the three months while we paid their wages. It was either they remain within the organisation and we provide them with better terms and wages, or we agree a sale.

(隨著事情逐漸升溫,我也批准了凍結付款的決定。我想指出他們完全清楚這一點,並且沒有人告訴他們這筆錢不會支付,只要他們答應他們的承諾在我們支付工資的同時保留在組織內三個月。這要是他們留在戰隊內,我們為他們提供更好的條款和工資,或者我們同意出售陣容名單。)

“In the end, we agreed a sale with Winstrike, and as of June 2018 the roster represented their colours. Because the payments were frozen, and the players mixed Winstrike into the story, the deal has been on-going for a while and is yet to be finalised, but we are close to a logical conclusion. Two months later, Winstrike made the correct administerial decision to pay out the frozen sum to the players, subtracting it from the transfer fee. As a result, the players received all outstanding money, subtracted out of the transfer fee.”

(最後,我們同意與Winstrike進行談判截止到2018年6月,因為早前付款被凍結,而且選手將Winstrike混合到故事之中,這筆交易已經持續了一段時間, 尚未最終確定,但我們接近合乎邏輯的結論。兩個月後,Winstrike做出了正確的行政決定,向玩家支付凍結時的金額,從轉會費中扣除。結果,選手們獲得了所有優秀獎金,並從轉會費中扣除。)

Solovyov詳細說明了轉移的財務狀況,指出該組織最終同意支付比最初規定的更多的金額:

“During the transfer to Winstrike we agreed the total amount of frozen payments that we owed and had to pay out as part of the transfer process, it was supposed to be part of the deal.

(在陣容名單轉移到Winstrike期間,我們同意了我們欠下並且必須在轉移過程中支付的凍結時的支付總額,它應該是交易的一部分。)


“Seeing as the process was delayed, Winstrike paid out, but preliminarily, accounting for taxation, bank transfer commissions and similar expenses the sum came to a total of 2,200,000 Rubles (~$35,000 as per xe.com, 29/07/2019). After the players had transferred [to Winstrike], and I don’t know what the thought process was, but we told them that there were taxes to be paid, the money would be received by a legal entity, they said: “We don’t care, the sum you owe us is 2,950,000 Rubles”.

(但看到這個過程被推遲了,Winstrike支付了,但初步說,稅收、銀行轉賬佣金及類似費用的總和達到了2,200,000盧布(根據xe.com約為35,000美元,29/07/2019)。在選手轉移到[Winstrike]後,我不知道思考過程是什麼,但我們告訴他們需要繳納稅款,而這筆錢需要由一個法人實體收到,他們說:“我們不要你關心,你欠我們的金額是2,950,000盧布。)


“At that point we agreed to the sum because we were tired of the stress involved with the players, we just wanted to finally close the deal. This sum included their prize winnings, sticker money and their last month of wages and a few other expenses. We agreed to the sum of RUB2,950,000 (~$46,000 as per xe.com, 29/07/2019), which was deducted from the transfer fee, and, in my opinion, we even overpaid. The prize money was distributed with a 75-25 proportion – 75% for the players and coach, 25% to the organisation.

(那時我們同意這筆錢,因為我們已經厭倦了選手們所承受的壓力,我們只是一心完成交易。 這筆款項包括他們的獎金,戰隊 選手貼紙花紅和上個月的工資以及其他一些費用。 我們同意總額為2,950,000盧布(根據xe.com約為46,000美元,29/07/2019),這是從轉會費中扣除的,而且在我看來,我們甚至多付了。 獎金以75-25的比例分配 – 75%用於選手和教練,25%用於組織。)


“To give financial context on sticker money, players received 5% each, while the coach received 10% because we knew he didn’t have personal stickers, so we thought it fair to compensate him.”

(為了給貼紙分紅提供財務支持,選手每人收到5%,而教練收到10%,因為我們知道他沒有個人貼紙,所以我們認為公平地補償他。”)

Solovyov質疑有關QB.Fire從選手中偷錢的指控,他說:“我認為偷竊的話只是誹謗,可能是基於個人的怨恨。這與事實毫無關係。”

文章來源:HLTV

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